Alternative Wrestling History: What if Sting had been the third man in the nWo?

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John Carbery

Today we debut a new series of posts under the theme ‘Alternative Wrestling History‘. This series will look at some of the “what if?” moments from wrestling history. It’s not the only debut though, as it’s also the first post from our newest contributor John Carbery and he looks at what would have happened had Sting been the third member of the nWo.

It’s been reported, most recently on the Monday Night War, that the original choice for the nWo’s “third man” at Bash at the Beach 96 was slated to be Sting. When I first heard this I thought two things, “that’s a perfect choice” and “it wouldn’t have worked”. In this article I try and elaborate on those snap conclusions.

sting5Thinking about it, Sting would’ve been a perfect choice to be the third man. He was a home-grown WCW star and the brightest white meat babyface they had from 88-96. Ever since his career making performance against Ric Flair at the inaugural Clash of the Champions Sting was everybody’s favourite action figure. He was colourful, high flying and fun. Can you imagine how much it would’ve hurt the kids who’d grown up believing in him if he’d turned heel on that night? To WCW fans it would’ve been a major event, to some WWF fans though it might be the first they’d heard of him as he aligned himself with two of their favourites.

The reason Hulk Hogan’s turn worked so well is that it brought in both WCW and WWF fans. WCW fans were finally given a reason to care about him whereas WWF fans were given a reason to care about him again. Hogan in 1996 was as stale as you can get. For two years he’d been holding a Hulkamania revival for himself in WCW to little effect. 94-96 were Hogan’s wilderness years, Hulkamania was running mild and his act just didn’t appeal to the more wrestling focused audience that WCW attracted and WWF fans had seen it all before.

I think both Sting and Hogan are equally important to the projected failure of this alternate nWo. In our timeline the nWo was a dominant heel faction that remade the wrestling business in their image and a lot of the reason that was allowed to happen was because of the creative control of Hogan himself. The nWo got over, because they went over every night. I can only imagine that if a red and yellow babyface Hogan was acting as opposition to a Sting led nWo the heel faction wouldn’t have been afforded the same win loss record.

Hogan probably would’ve no doubt viewed the young, hip Hall and Nash as a threat and would’ve undermined them the same way he had Ric Flair and would eventually do the Rock by exercising his creative control. Sting would’ve probably been given the same fate as his former nemesis Vader, crushed in a main event series. Sting’s nWo would’ve been the Dungeon of Doom in cooler gear.

Nwo-outsidersOf course there are other characters to consider here. First let’s think about Sting’s tag partners at Bash at The Beach 96 Macho Man and Luger. Macho Man had joined WCW and immediately settled into second place behind Hogan as he had in the WWF of the 80s. In the initial months of the nWo feud in our timeline Macho led the opposition before eventually joining the faction himself. Maybe in the alternate timeline Macho would’ve eventually joined the nWo to run against Hogan once more? In the real world where Macho joined the nWo he STILL managed to fit in a feud with Hogan while a member himself.

Lex Luger actually benefited from the nWo storyline greatly in our timeline. In 97 while heel Hogan was on top The Total Package filled the main event babyface void quite well and even had a well-received short run as WCW Champion. I personally don’t see that happening in the alternate 97 with Sting’s nWo. Sting himself might become champion, defeating the Giant as Hogan had, but that title win would ultimately lead to a showdown with Hogan and sooner rather than later.

Whereas, in our timeline Hogan vs Sting was saved for Starrcade 97 (allowing Luger his time to shine) I can easily see Sting being subdued once and for all by the Hulkster before or at Starrcade 96 or by Superbrawl 97 at the latest. After this we could see nWo Macho make an appearance and carry Hogan through the spring/summer of 97 thought that feud would probably be more about the two of them rather than WCW vs nWo.

I can sadly see Luger losing out in this timeline when he should be featured centre stage. Heel Sting as champion would have the most reason to feud with Luger in this timeline. Sting and Luger were attached at the hip on screen and off for some time. Storyline Luger should feel his betrayal the hardest, and reflect the feeling of the fans at home. In a perfect world Sting would beat Giant for the title and play cowardly heel for an extended period of time before dropping it to Lex at the perfect moment. Though I think with Hogan’s politicking I could see this feud taking the semi-main event spot to Hogan vs Savage, months after the initial heat has died down and Hogan had already beat Sting anyway.

Bret Hart WCWHall and Nash meanwhile, would’ve probably received similar treatment to Bret Hart when he arrived in WCW. The idea behind bringing them in was a strong one, but I can easily see them getting lost in the shuffle. What’s easy to forget is that Nash and Hall truly made their name as main eventers in WCW and not the WWF. Nash as Diesel failed as WWF Champion, which has been admitted numerous times. Hall meanwhile was a great mid carder and Intercontinental Champion but that was it for him in New York.

In our WCW though, the Outsiders were able to take a back seat to Hogan who really brought them up to his level by treating them as partners in his nWo. After a few years as a headline tag team they were both true superstars, Nash in particular slotted neatly into the main events in 98. It’s almost impossible to state how over the Wolfpac were back then with him as their leader. I don’t think this would’ve happened without his years as an Outsider.

In this alternate timeline, I can honestly see them being left on the shelf and well way from Hogan’s main event. Eric Bischoff proved with Hart that if he’s preoccupied with Hogan on top he’ll easily forget about a hot new signing. I can see the exact same thing happening to Hall and Nash. They would have a good run as a tag team, but without their association to Hogan and with their association to a crushed Sting it wouldn’t have had half the impact.

If you’re wondering where I’m getting my assumption that Sting would just lay down and be scrubbed as the leader of the nWo, I’ll just point you to what happened to him in our timeline when he went up against them. Sting was the WCW’s hottest babyface once more in 97, his famous year-long feud with Hogan should’ve culminated in a red hot brawl at Starrcade where the Stinger vanquished Hollywood. Instead Sting allowed himself to be treated like a jobber by Hogan before meekly winning the title with a Scorpion Deathlock but only after he’d been pinned cleanly by Hollywood earlier in the match. Confusing, I know.

Now while it might seem like this is all doom and gloom, I honestly think there’d be one ultimate outcome of the Sting led nWo, WCW might still be with us. In our timeline the nWo kicked off a massive boom in the wrestling business that was ultimately a Mutually Assured Destruction scenario. The WCW killed itself trying to kill the WWF and they nearly succeeded in doing just that.

hulk_hogan mondayIn the alternate timeline the Hogan led WCW would’ve been treading water and probably been better off for it. WCW and WWF were engaged in an arms race during the Monday Night Wars and WCW was throwing money at the wall to see if it stuck after their red hot nWo angle produced the White Hot Austin vs McMahon in response. Who knows, maybe they could’ve kept their spending under control and kept a steady audience if they hadn’t flown so close to the sun? Sure the wrestling landscape would’ve been a much blander place in 98/99 but things would’ve heated up eventually and maybe at a pace that could’ve sustained both companies. Their feuding could’ve continued to carry on into the 2000’s and with Vince McMahon’s appetite for success I’m sure he could’ve found a miracle format without the same level of prompting eventually. He did it in the 80’s after all.

There was an outside pressure coming from smart fans of ECW to update the product of both companies even in the early 90s that both WCW and WWF felt. With talent like Austin, Foley, Taker, HHH, The Rock and more on the roster surely the WWF would’ve allowed the cream to rise to the top eventually especially with the inevitable departure of HBK in 98?

Hogan would’ve continued to fizzle out as a babyface headliner in 97/98 worse than he had in 95/96 and maybe Bischoff being the mercenary that he was would’ve seen the writing on the wall and sent him out to pasture leaving room at the top for others such as DDP and Goldberg? Sting would’ve eventually turned babyface again and after the run he’d have no doubt had it’d probably be refreshing to him.

There are infinite possibilities with this scenario. How would a milder landscape have affected ECW? How many beloved wrestlers wouldn’t have had their shot as a result of a neutered nWO? Would there still be two major companies still operating in the US and who would they be using today? That I can’t speculate on right now, but if you move the pieces that were on the board at the time around in a different way than what actually happened a lot of interesting things start to happen.

Maybe you have a few ideas of your own on what could’ve happened had Sting led the nWo against Hulk Hogan’s WCW? Use the comments section below as your canvas as I’d love to hear them.

11 thoughts on “Alternative Wrestling History: What if Sting had been the third man in the nWo?

  1. I don’t see Hogan being a part of WCW in 1997, in my version of an alternate storyline, nor do I see Luger as well. Hall and Nash would have still been just as important, and I think the Horsemen would have been major players as the NWO antagonists, with the Giant possibly being a Horseman at some point, effectively displacing Steve McMichael–which, even if the Giant had wrestled horribly, would still have been a major upgrade. But if that had been so, I see WWE not pressing the issue so much, and in return, not giving Steve Austin, Mick Foley, Triple H and the Rock nearly as big of a push as they had actually gotten. For all of Hogan’s faults, he was the perfect guy to have joined the NWO. It revived a stagnant career that was pretty much dead by that point, and it gave Steve Borden the opportunity to develop a new side of his Stinger character.

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  2. Hogan was the perfect guy to turn for a number of reasons, and its easy to see why when you look back. One thing I forgot to include in this piece as it only occurred to me after I’d finished it is that if WCW hadn’t created as big a noise as it had from 96 onward maybe it mightn’t have been such a big target for the executives during the TIme Warner/Aol merger.

    Without a massive profile and without the same kind of monetary losses resulting from a number of years of hemorrhaging money on big money contracts for people who simply weren’t drawing enough money to pay for them it might have squeaked by and stayed on TNT. With a solid roster and a loyal viewership to make them worthwhile to the execs WCW could’ve survived, though maybe not on Monday nights?

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    • As good as the WCW ratings were during that 84-week run, I can’t help but wonder if maybe they would have been a little better if Nitro had aired on a Tuesday instead. People seem to forget Time Warner AOL’s role in the demise of WCW. They didn’t directly straight up sabotage WCW, but they definently had their hands dirtied in all of this. All you have to do is go on YouTube and watch the piece that Kevin Sullivan, Chris Kanyon, and Kevin Nash were a part of that tells about why they think WCW was sabotaged. It’s quite fascinating, especially Kanyon’s interview. Airing Nitro on Mondays was at first the best thing Turner and Bischoff could have done for WCW, but as we all know, that sure turned real sour real quick once WWF got their bearings and overtook WCW.

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  3. Its weird, by the early 90’s Vince had essentially completed his expansion cycle and didn’t seem to have any designs on wiping out WCW at all. Then Eric Bischoff tried to do that very thing to the WWF and they eventually felt Vince’s wrath.

    Nash etc like to throw blame at AOL/Time Warner but the truth is WCW was terrible from mid 99 onwards. It seemed at some point after Spring Stampede that year the wheels just came off. I was a 14 year old wrestling nerd at the time so I still tuned in to every single broadcast and it was slightly depressing to watch it go downhill creatively. They had an incredible roster yet somehow managed to turn out rubbish TV for months.

    It was almost like after a time they ran out of shit to throw at the wall. Then Vince Russo came along and poisoned what was left.

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    • Well, I was 29 in 1999, and I agree that the quality of WCW went downhill quickly. I feel that if they had began the youth movement that they had in 2000 back in 1997, it may have actually helped. Russo has been a cancer everywhere he’s gone, and the only reason that he didn’t destroy WWF in the process is because McMahon was firmly in charge, and he wasn’t just gonna use any ol Russo crap storyline. So Russo, feeling that he was underappreciated, left the WWF like a coward and ran to the free money that WCW offered. And you’re right, with that roster, WCW should have been producing gold each week, but all we kept getting was coal, then finally pure unadulterated bullshit.

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  5. Definitely interesting, just think it would’ve been a big deal but probably would’ve slowly faded away. Hogan turning heel was amazing. If you’re younger you might think yeah that was cool but if you’re old enough to have seen Hogan in his prime you know just insane it was. Sting was WCW for sure but seeing him heel wouldn’t have been as crazy.
    Another interesting alternative is what if Davey Boy Smith joined the NWO like it was rumored to have happened in 96. Who knows, maybe Bret jumps ship with him or maybe he stays or Owen leaves with them.

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    • An NWO/Hart Foundation combo in late ’96 would’ve been very interesting, especially if Bret’s not there to make a phenomenon out of SCSA. I’d hope he’d eventually gotten over with someone, but who knows.
      There’d be no Montreal Screwjob that’s for sure, but still maybe an Attitude era, albeit a very different-looking one with different stars. Would HBK take Bret’s role as a foil for Austin, or would he refuse to job to him too? Maybe, the Montreal Screwjob still happens, except it’s in Boston or Texas, with Austin taking HBK’s place and Shawn in Bret’s role? I’m not saying Austin would in real life do the same thing Shawn did, more McMahon doing it all on his on, and since it’s his company, the result sticks.

      If Owen jumps to WCW, he might still be alive today……unless Russo still bails to WCW and convinces Owen to do the same stunt but with a different gimmick?

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  6. Wait, so Sting not Bret was considered as the third man? Huh. Yeah, Hogan would’ve killed any long-term momentum. That Dungeon of Doom analogy, but with real name members is dead on.
    Hogan doesn’t always know best as history has shown.

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  7. WCW started falling after Starrcade 97, but momentum carried them through 1998 and into early 99. Ratings were high until about spring. Sting, Bret Hart, Randy Savage, and Ric Flair are your veterans to put over young talent. Honestly, the NWO was overdone by 1998. Why not have a big blow off cage match War Games style to end the NWO? (Sting, Luger, Flair, Bret Hart, and DDP vs Hogan, Nash, Hall, Savage, and Curt Henning? My 4 Horsemen would be Flair, Benoit, Jericho, and Malenko which gives a push to 3 younger guys with Flair as the mentor and Arn Anderson as a mgr. Hall and Nash probably go back to the WWF anyways. Hogan still has feuds with Bret Hart and Sting that can headline PPVs. I wouldn’t rush Goldberg into main events yet. 2000 would be time to unleash Goldberg as a monster champion perhaps. My Starrcade 98 would be Sting vs Bret Hart which had the potential to be a classic. Of course, I’m fantasy booking and pretending Hogan doesn’t have Creative Control. Eddie Guerrero, Rey Misterio, Ultimo Dragon lead the Cruiserweights. I don’t break up the Steiners or Harlem Heat yet. Randy Savage retires after he puts over DDP in a retirement cage match, passing the torch.

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